Ben Hall on Day 1 : "Wow...great venue , great conditions. Mischa and Bruce Mahoney put on a clinic for all the other racers. Fast upwind and ripping fast downwind....rarely off the foils. The new pin head sails Mischa brought seem to be very good. It is Mischa's answer to the short rig...keep the standard mast length and keep the tall aspect ratio. Following Mischa upwind before the start it seemed that the top opened up nicely even with the tiny head . Matt Struble was struggling a bit upwind but on fire downwind with the newest Exploder. Mischa had 1, 1, 2. Bruce 2,2,1 and Matt 3,3,3. Brandon Wallace sailed well in 4th and Larry Woods was consistent with 5,5,5. Then came Robbie Daniels and Matt Keenan In the Classics Craig Yandow had 1,1 and a do not ask. Damian La Casella won the third race with Woody Cope a close second. Very close racing in the Classic fleet. Consensus from the sailors is that the sailing here in Dago is awesome. Mischa commented the conditions were perfect and that he was happy to sail against many of his friends again." more info at http://www.catsailingnews.com/2017/10/a-cat-north-americans-2017-san-diego.html
Live Feed on Red Bull TV https://www.redbull.tv/live/AP-1R8Z67VKN1W11/red-bull-youth-america-s-cup
What can Oracle do? http://www.sail-world.com/australia/Kiwi-Americas-Cup-domination---What-can-Oracle-Team-USA-do-about-it/154777
Great throw back to the 12 Meter days! https://youtube.com/watch?v=tr7-BwzceYI</a>
Well folks, this one appears to be all over. I mean I hope JS and the yanks can turn it around . I mean I love the AC 50's, fantastic boats, but guess it may be time for a bit of a change. Who ever would have guessed we'd end up on foiling catamarans traveling 3x windspeed manned by crews that don't actually grind winches or trim sails, except through electronic devices. Dunno, kind of makes me miss the old days when every skipper wasn't a Kiwi or Aussie. https://youtu.be/h3uF5q7_viM</a>
Go Bruce!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Jhjr1cl98
We've come a long way in a short time baby! https://youtube.com/watch?v=LHAg0bEaBsw</a>
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A moment he'd probably like to forget! Artemis was fast!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyjJwTj3fVs
Nathan O talking about an AC 45 foiler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeitWxhxEbg&t=50s
Larry Woods <email@example.com> Dec 28 to Tracy, Mackenzie, AClassCat For me having just bought a boat, and now brother Todd buying one, just 6 months later and his boards are even farther forward.... It can be frustrating. However, I do think that we are definitely narrowing the development window. Seems the board designs are consolidating, and the rudders are as well. The major movement of the boards has happened, and now it is just some fine tuning of there location, balancing speed vs. stability. the boats are definitely much more stable on the foils than they were 18 months ago. The rigs are now standing nearly straight up, to account for the board movement, and as Tracey said, without a fore sail like the AC boats, I do not think they can go much farther forward. So lets hope that they are not going to give us any huge changes for 2017, as although I do enjoy the tinkering to a point, I would rather be on the water. I think most of my performance gains are going to be through practice and time on the water, vs. continuous equipment changing. I sure have had my share of it and am looking forward to just sailing for 2017. See you all in Florida soon Woodsy
'Tracy Oliver' via North American A-Class Catamaran Group Dec 28 to lwoods, mcook1050 Interesting discussion. I find it frustrating, given the sophistication of the design and analysis tools readily available and the back log of real world information from AC programs, that we are still "throwing darts in the dark" when it comes to such a basic design element as board placement! It's maddening that we buy a new boat, designed by knowledgeable engineers, and immediately pull out the Saws-all!!! Equally frustrating is the apparent trail and error approach being taken by the designers as they slowly creep the boards forward. Will we get the point where we saw them out and move them aft? I asked Melvin about this when at Foiling Week and his response was "makes it interesting. Doesn't it?". Well, no, it doesn't. Although I love tinkering with my A. The boats have reached a point, for me, where I would prefer to do a little less tinkering and a lot more sailing. My seat of the pants impression, after hours of tinkering and sailing, is that the board should supply ALL of the lift while the rudders simply act as stabilizers . We have all seen the dramatic difference that minute adjustments in the rudder AOA can make. I attribute this to the fact that, IMO, the rudders, when the boat is foiling on its proper lines, are neutral and unloaded. As the boat tries to come off its lines, the rudders act to either lift of pull down the transom to keep it on its line. If the rudders are not neutral prior to lift off, they will fight against the boards. For each of us, in my thinking, the mission is to find that neutral position for the rudders on each of our boats in each condition. Intuitively, moving the boards forward would result in a more stable platform when foiling. However, as the boards go forward, the rudders will be loaded and a whole new factor will come into play. Of course, the AC boats have a foresail thereby moving the COE forward, allowing them to further move the boards forward and keep the boat balanced in that regard. So we cannot simply look at these boats and think that the extreme is the way to go. That's my 2 cents worth, Tracy
In the meantime this is an interesting comparison of a foiling A Cat v. Moth! <a href="http://www.catsailingnews.com/2016/12/a-class-vs-moth-vid-by-mathias-borreskov.html">catsailingnews.com/2016/12/a-class-vs-moth-vid-by-mathias-borreskov.html</a>
Bailey, I have one of the A3's that Lars put together. One of local Pegasus Racing guys was kind enough to let me in the shop yesterday to measure their F1. The board placement matched the numbers that I had already come up with as well as the feed back Larry gave me . Looking forward to being able to top insert foiling boards for the 2017 NA's, definitely a step up from bottom inserting early J's into C trunks! Mackenzie
Bailey White Dec 27 to Larry, North, Mackenzie Mackenzie, you have a DNA? Joseph Bello is doing a Z10 conversion on his DNA with OH Rogers and could provide insight.